DEBATE: GANISM DEFEATED by
the word of truth
CHAPTER TWELVE
The following report is an example of the
power of the revelation of Christ. The servant of God, Ronald Watson of
Karnataka
EXPOSITION OF DAMNABLE HERESIES DEBATE:
GANISM VERSUS THE WORD OF TRUTH:
Our books entitled, “Exposition of Damnable
heresies” are in circulation in many parts of the world. In
In Coonoor,
Pastor Nesa Kumar invited me for the
meetings which were conducted by him and other ministers in his church of like
faith. Meetings were held by Pastor Ronald Watson and two warriors of the
faith, (local servants of God) on 24th -26th of October.
They hate heresies like we hate them and as such preach against them.
About Pastor Lawrence; he is a follower
and agent of Mr. R.L.S. Gan and has two other followers in the city of
Mr. R.L.S. Gan sowed seeds of discrepancy
through these agents in Coonoor,
These agents again invited Mr. Gan in the
month of November to Coonoor and they planned to conduct meetings there and in
I Watson, preached three messages: 1.
Blindness of Laodicea in so-called message believers, 2. Born again evidence.
(Mr. Gan’s agents attended and they quietly taped the message.) 3.
Identifications of the true ministry of God. In the third message, I took most
of the things from book 8. The Lord’s presence was there mightily. I tell you
with fear and reverence in the work of the Lord, that truly this meeting
brought one of the greatest successes against the heresies of Gan. Only his
heresies are dominant in that area. I have not heard of any other heresies
except these heresies of Mr. Gan. This message, his agents also taped. After
the meetings two Muslims were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, by
me there. Both of them are husband and wife and they will be attending Pastor Nesa
Kumar’s church.
After the meetings were over, agents of
Gan approached me and asked me to have meetings with me regarding their
apostle’s exposition in book 8, so I had to stay one day more because of them.
IT WAS THE WILL OF THE LORD and the whole purpose of the meetings.
Now, I write in detail about the meeting
and debate between four Agents of Gan and myself.
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: Because here we can’t get Brother
Ronald
Watson’s response: In the
name of the Lord and by the help of the Holy Spirit, I now answer your
questions, and I want you to leave the heresies of Gan, repent and get back to
the true Word of God. This is what I need from you brethren.
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: Where did Brother Gan say that he is an
apostle or prophet, directly? Why did Brother Bruce say in book 8 that Brother
Gan claims an office of apostle?
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: In book
8 Pastor
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: Yes. What is wrong in calling himself an
apostle? Is there no office in the five-fold ministry called an apostle?
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: Yes
Amen! I believe there is an office in the five-fold ministry, but that office
is not only reserved for Mr. Gan. The body of Christ consists of these offices
but it is not operated by one man called Gan from
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: You mean, now there are no apostles
according to the message of Malachi 4: 5-6? You said that you believe in a
five-fold ministry, then how could you say that it is not now, and it is after
the outpouring of the Holy Spirit?
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: I
believe now there are apostles, but they are POWERLESS APOSTLES not yet set in
order, and are under the fiery training and tests of God like Brother Paul who
spent three years in the deserts of
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: OK leave it. I also believe in the Baptism
of the Holy Spirit as you preached yesterday and I do believe in the five-fold
ministry. I appreciate you preaching about them, then why don’t we come close
together, for the unity of the bride today?
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: There is
no unity under heresies, therefore the word of God says, “Why there are
divisions among you, is because of heresies.” If you appreciate my preaching,
leave those false self-claiming apostles and wait for the true apostles’
ministry.
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: Brother Gan is saying today that most of the
followers of Malachi 4:5-6 message are making a mistake by quoting Branham’s
message but not quoting from the word of God.
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: What is
the difference between the Word of God and the message of Malachi 4:5-6? Is
Malachi 4:5-6’s message different from the Word of God? Tell me?
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: Hmmm; some are word of God but not all.
Only where he says, “Thus Saith the Lord.”
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: You mean
to say where he says, “Thus Saith The Lord”, that only is the word of God and
the rest are not the word of God? Then leave all. Take only, “Thus Saith The
Lord” as granted as the word of God. This is the worst heresy I have ever seen
among the so-called shameless believers of the message of Malachi 4:5-6. I
don’t like to identify you with the message of Malachi 4:5-6. But I believe his
messages are recorded and printed in the books called “Spoken Word Books” and everything
in the books and on the tapes are the Word of God for me, and he is one of the
greatest prophets in the Bible. If his messages are not the word of God then
other prophets’ messages in the Bible are also not the word of God. I say,
“Amen to every Word of the prophet W.M.B.” There is no use in discussing if you
deny the prophet’s words are the Word of God.
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: Do you believe that there will be a
revelation comes to the five-fold ministry, and that revelation will be more
than what the Prophet W.M.B. received?
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: There is
only one revelation left for the church to receive and that is the SEVEN
THUNDERS revelation. That one thing is not revealed. That’s what the prophet of
God said. And that revelation is only for the church for Rapturing faith and it
is not more than what the prophet had received. It cannot be called as less or
more revelation. Revelation can not be measured as less or more; Christ is
always in full measure, amen. Because Prophet W.M.B.’s time was not the time
for the seven thunders revelation, it will be at the coming of the Lord.
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: OK book 8, Ganism: “(1) He believes in
prehistoric man, Quote: "Perhaps the serpent was like prehistoric man,
maybe better looking, who existed long before modern man- the present Adamic
race - was created some 6,000 years ago.’ (The original sin page 1-1)” What is
there wrong in it?
Ronald
Watson’s Answer:
According to the answer by Pastor Bruce in book 8, it is absolutely right
according to the word of God. God created Adam in His own image. It is not
necessary to illustrate about race, prehistoric etc., and years as science
counts.
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: Quote of Gan in book 8: “(2) "Adam was
not created to be a tiller of the ground. A son of God is not created to toil;
he is a child of God. The Serpent-kind was created to be subjected to him to do
the tilling.’ (The original sin-page 47).”
Yes,
it is; the Serpent kind was created to be subject under Adam, since Adam is
like a King.
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: If it
was the serpent to till the ground then God would have commanded the serpent to
help Adam to till the ground. But in the Bible Adam was told to till the ground
since there was no man to till. Don’t mix up man with Serpent. Serpent was
called a beast of the earth, it was not man. Maybe it is Mr. Gan’s intellectual
invention regarding the tilling.
Agent of Gan: Shadrack: Quote
3 of Gan in book 8: “(3) "Mendel's Law states that "every individual
is the sum total of the Characteristics in its two immediate
progenitors"... Cain, the son of the Serpent, ';) inherited a part of
Eve's nature, the nature of the Spirit of God which was in Adam." (The
original sin-page 27).”
Cain had to inherit the nature of Eve, then
the nature of the Spirit of God. I justify this quote, because Cain was also a
worshipper.
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: It is
the biggest heresy. It’s one of the insanities mentioned in the message called:
“Knoweth it not”. If Cain inherited part of the nature of Eve then he had
inherited Adam’s nature; that means he was part of God. So Cain also must have
acquired eternal life, then Cain was also partially a righteous man. Maybe Mr.
Gan wants to justify Cain that he also was partially a seed of God, because Mr.
Gan himself likes to be identified already with Cain’s seed. If it was so then
the whole bunch of Cain’s seed would have been saved.
Agent of Gan: Shadrack: Quote
4 of Gan in book 8: “(4) "The two trees are two laws which govern the
sexual reproductive organ which is found in the middle part of the human body
(the garden). " (The original sin-page 61).
Yes
I agree with Brother Gan. It is the middle part of the human body where the
Garden of Eden was.
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: It is
one of the worst madness I have ever heard from you kind of people. I think Mr.
Gan has lost his mind who writes all these. He writes all these for those
people who are mad like himself. If it was the middle part of the human body
(the garden) then the Bridegroom and Bride will spend the Millennium upon the
middle part of the human body, because the Bride must go back to Eden (the
garden). Finish my brother; you are too smart to tell about your boss’s madness, who is
spending much of his time in a mental hospital in
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: OK, you give me one chance; I will clarify
your answers with Brother Gan when he comes to
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: Let all
the praises and glory go to the Lord. Don’t say I am accurate in preaching.
Here a greater than I, is standing. Without Him I am nothing. I don’t like to
be praised, ok? I love you if you leave all nonsense, come and repent and
believe the Truth which was delivered through the Prophet W.M.B. Don’t agree
with me but agree with every Word of God. All of us cannot come together unless
you give up your dirty heresies of the devil and repent for your heresies.
Still there is forgiveness.
Agent of Gan: Shadrack: “(5)
"It was the intention of God that they would bring forth "seeds after
their kind" by physical union. Sexual union was intended that the two
shall be one flesh (Genesis
There
is no wrong in quote 5 of Gan in Book 8. It is the will of the Lord that Adam
and Eve should come together in sexual union at the permitted time of the Lord.
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: I don’t
want to waste much of my time answering your boss’ Mr. Gan’s quotations. They
were already refuted by the quotations of the Prophet W.M.B. They were already
refuted here below by the quotation from, “Does God ever change His mind
18/4/65”, and my precious Pastor Dalton Bruce of Bethel, Trinidad has done a
wonderful work in refuting all the heresies of Satan. So I say, in the name of
the Lord, that all here in book 8, page 47 to 52, mentioned as the quotes of
Mr. Gan, are Satan’s heresies and they were refuted by the quotations of the
Bible and the message of Malachi 4:5-6, and they are put in the book called,
“Exposition of Damnable Heresies, 8 identifications - 7 Thunders Ministry VS
Impersonators.” Come out of it and repent.
Agent
of Gan: Shadrack: I would like to invite you for the ministers
meetings in the month of November in
Ronald
Watson’s Answer: There is
no need of talking with Mr. Gan. All his heresies are refuted and Book 8 is my
ultimate to Mr. Gan and you agents. First of all, you are unfit for a pastor’s
position and you are not qualified for a pastor’s office. I don’t respect you
as a Pastor of the church. It’s better you learn under a God-called man in the
church, who is called by the Lord to pastor the
Among them, two of the brethren, Brother James
and Brother Jayaram, are convinced of the truth and they indirectly promised to
contact me through e-mail. Brother Jayaram had been one of the strong
supporters of Shadrack, before the truth was revealed to him. Shadrack is the
main agent in
May this brochure serve to warn all
message-believers about the poisonous
venom of Gan and his agents, who seek to destroy every established doctrine
of the bible and message of Malachi 4:5&6. They advocate that all the
teachings of Brother Branham are not inspired, and take the liberty to
interpret the scriptures, to attempt to prove such lies. Be it known to all
true believers that the messenger of each age alone was given the revelation for
their specific age. God held them in his hands and inspired them to speak the
Word of truth by divine revelation! The revelation of Brother Paul became the
standard by which all apostles and preachers were to be judged.
Quote
W.M.B.: Thou hast tried
them that say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars."
My, that is a blunt statement. Here it is in Galatians 1:8, It was the apostles
who brought the original Word to the people. That original Word could not
change, not even a dot or dash of it. Paul knew it was God Who had spoken to
him so he said, "Even if I come and try to give a second revelation, try
to make one little change in what I gave originally, let me be accursed."
You see, Paul knew that first revelation was correct. God can't give a first
revelation, then a second revelation. If He did, He would be changing His mind…
and speaking about those Ephesians… Those Ephesians knew that Word as Paul had
taught it. They were full of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of Paul's hands. They looked those false apostles in the eye
and said, "You are not saying what Paul said. You are, therefore, false."
Oh, that sets my heart on fire. Get back to the Word! (CHURCH.AGE.BOOK.CPT.3
Page 83).
This is the greatest defeat for Ganism in
Gusto Gadama Lilongwe Malawi, James M.
Veremu Seke- Chitunqwiza Zimbabwe, Moses A. Segite Nyaru Kenya, George M.
Matthew West Malaysia, Franco Togonon Bulihan Silang cavite Philippines, Osel
B. Dumanon Mahogany Butuan city Philippines, Ruben Lachica Capitol site Cebu
city Philippines, Richard D’souza Sankli St. Byculla Bombay M.S. India, Hubert D’souza Colony
Borivli West Bombay India, S. Sunderaraj Puthukudy Nagercoil- Kanyakumari
India, Chandula Abeywickrema Dehiwala Sri Lanka, Peter Ochola Kampala Uganda.
This article was published in a tract in
late 2004, based on this debate held in
Pastor, Fellow-labourer
and Distributor , Ronald Watson